Tuesday, August 25, 2009

Alvin Plantinga and Warranted Christian Belief

The belief that a man called Jesus lived 2000 years ago and was crucified is a Christian belief.

How can such a belief be a properly basic belief - a belief that needs no justification?

This makes no sense.


Blogger WAR_ON_ERROR said...

Because otherwise, Christianity is false. Duh. You've met Christians before, right Steven? hehe


10:56 PM  
Blogger Ron Murphy said...

It's as bad as Swinburne's Principle of Testimony - with the absence of any reason to disbelieve them, one should accept that eye-witnesses or believers are telling the truth when they testify about religious experiences.

5:55 AM  
Blogger Ron Murphy said...

...but of course a believer's holding of that principle is good enough reason to doubt them.

5:58 AM  
Blogger pcraig said...

Is that what Plantinga is arguing in his book? I thought it was a bit more complicated than that. Have you read it?

8:06 AM  
Blogger Steven Carr said...

So you concede that Plantinga wrote a big book called 'Warranted Christian Belief' and never gave a list of Christian Beliefs that were Warranted?

What is the point of reading a book called 'Warranted Christian Belief' that never even attempts to list Christian Beliefs which are Warranted?

It is a bit like finding a book called 'The Big British Book of Birds' that never mentions any birds.

9:25 AM  
Blogger pcraig said...

I haven't conceded anything, I don't know much about the book. Maybe he argues that a few doctrines are warranted, and others are not. Have you read it?

9:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

An insightfull post. Will definitely help.

Karim - Positive thinking

3:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very thoughtfull post on belief .It should be very much helpfull.

Karim - Creating Power

3:37 AM  
Blogger WAR_ON_ERROR said...

"It is a bit like finding a book called 'The Big British Book of Birds' that never mentions any birds."


5:28 AM  
Blogger Brett said...

I think you've missed the point of this book.

10:52 AM  
Blogger Steven Carr said...

The point of the book is to have a book of answers even if they are not real answers.

11:01 AM  
Blogger Brett said...

I disagree. The point of the book is to defend theism against the objection that theistic belief is somehow irrational and unwarranted irrespective of whether its true. Plantinga eventually concludes that if theism is true, then it has warrant. This book is about warranted belief, not beliefs that are warranted.

11:48 AM  

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